Board Thread:Consensus Track/@comment-1251315-20170117115400/@comment-1251315-20170119164513

Munchvtec wrote: I can't speak for such bugs since I've only just returned though I'm sure they were simple fixes, no? All the "help" is nice but why can't we have both? I for one, would much rather use a Wiki chat or some other means on wikia to discuss said wikia instead of an outside source. Many of the bugs with the wikia chat are backend things that are due to the nature of how Wikia coded the feature. Many admins I've spoken to abhor the wiki chat for being buggy and extremely feature-limited, with chathacks in particularly mostly being a broken mess that doesn't work properly any more.

We're already in the process of losing Special:Forum due to "Discussions". It won't be long before Wikia decides to remove Special:Chat and replace it with something even more shitty, or even remove it and never replace it at all. The problem with relying on Wikia features is that we're at the mercy of Wikia bothering to continue maintaining them and their track record shows that most features they create get removed after long periods of non-support.

Chat has been permanently in "Labs" as a beta feature and has never moved into being mature. I wouldn't be surprised if Wikia announces this year that Chat will be removed and replaced with something crappier :P

Trust me, I'd like to have both. But given that nobody has used, or even made the attempt to use, the wikia chat, removing it was simpler. We do have forums (and eventually older-style wiki forums) and message walls, as well as article talkpages, to discuss the wiki though, which are much better mediums for discussion than the chat. While the discord server has a section for wiki editing, that's more for helping discordian's understand wiki editing so they can help the wiki :)